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		<title>By: Ellyn</title>
		<link>http://www.pitlarson.com/2009/11/rob-says-he-is-clueless/#comment-267</link>
		<dc:creator>Ellyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 23:04:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dorien,

If you are reading this, I wanted to also let you know that your response came at a very bad time. I reacted a bit too strongly, but didn&#039;t have the technology to fix it after I posted it. 

Please know your kind thoughts are very much appreciated, it was just a really shitty week of everyone trying to tell us why Rob was not getting what he needs, for one reason or another, with none of them making sense.

-- XXO, Ellyn</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dorien,</p>
<p>If you are reading this, I wanted to also let you know that your response came at a very bad time. I reacted a bit too strongly, but didn&#8217;t have the technology to fix it after I posted it. </p>
<p>Please know your kind thoughts are very much appreciated, it was just a really shitty week of everyone trying to tell us why Rob was not getting what he needs, for one reason or another, with none of them making sense.</p>
<p>&#8211; XXO, Ellyn</p>
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		<title>By: Ellyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ellyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 23:46:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Dorien,

I&#039;m shocked by your response. Nice try to fob off mediocre Dutch medical care on language. I&#039;m sure there are some right wing Americans who also believe in denying health care to people with a foreign partner -- is that what you are saying? I don&#039;t think so, and think that you mean that you have to fight the bastards all the way....

Robert J. Pit is asking for care that he is not receiving. Even with his father and sister writing letters in perfect Dutch, we get nowhere. They are simplistic, nihilistic, and just plain anti-therapy for anyone who does not fit neatly into a box.

It is absolutely clear why this medical system works the way it does -- because people in this society accept it, don&#039;t question it, and thus perpetuate it. Bad care is bad care, and I should not need to speak a language well or be intelligent for my husband to receive it.

You confirmed my worst fears when you say that  &quot;Heliomare is the best place in the country for him to be&quot;, because that makes it obvious that this is the best that The Netherlands can offer, which I already suspected. Pretty sad. 

I now know I have to bring him home and take him out of this country for a proper diagnosis and plan for his rehabilitation. We have never received even that here, and I am afraid for him, you, me, and anyone else who may need proper care here. A stroke is a stroke in any country, language, etc. Why should The Netherlands be so different?

Sorry for the harshness, but this response, like much of what I have seen lately, has completely knocked me off my feet.

Ellyn</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dorien,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m shocked by your response. Nice try to fob off mediocre Dutch medical care on language. I&#8217;m sure there are some right wing Americans who also believe in denying health care to people with a foreign partner &#8212; is that what you are saying? I don&#8217;t think so, and think that you mean that you have to fight the bastards all the way&#8230;.</p>
<p>Robert J. Pit is asking for care that he is not receiving. Even with his father and sister writing letters in perfect Dutch, we get nowhere. They are simplistic, nihilistic, and just plain anti-therapy for anyone who does not fit neatly into a box.</p>
<p>It is absolutely clear why this medical system works the way it does &#8212; because people in this society accept it, don&#8217;t question it, and thus perpetuate it. Bad care is bad care, and I should not need to speak a language well or be intelligent for my husband to receive it.</p>
<p>You confirmed my worst fears when you say that  &#8220;Heliomare is the best place in the country for him to be&#8221;, because that makes it obvious that this is the best that The Netherlands can offer, which I already suspected. Pretty sad. </p>
<p>I now know I have to bring him home and take him out of this country for a proper diagnosis and plan for his rehabilitation. We have never received even that here, and I am afraid for him, you, me, and anyone else who may need proper care here. A stroke is a stroke in any country, language, etc. Why should The Netherlands be so different?</p>
<p>Sorry for the harshness, but this response, like much of what I have seen lately, has completely knocked me off my feet.</p>
<p>Ellyn</p>
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		<title>By: Dorien</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dorien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 21:52:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t try to explain it in dutch my dear. Get someone else to do that for you and be an whirling derwish about geting heard.

You see, your dutch is perfectly fine for someone who speaks good english. To a nurse or gym teacher whose english is ´highschool´, you sound like someone less intelligent than your truly are. There is no depth to their undertsanding you.
It&#039;s not easy to say this, but language is the barrier in getting understood.
Heliomare is the best place in the country for him to be, but slowing them down can be necessary. As I know from someone who also rehabilitated there. Just slam on the brakes, stop all action and don´t let them proceed till YOU feel everybody is on the same page.
Good luck!
XDorien</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t try to explain it in dutch my dear. Get someone else to do that for you and be an whirling derwish about geting heard.</p>
<p>You see, your dutch is perfectly fine for someone who speaks good english. To a nurse or gym teacher whose english is ´highschool´, you sound like someone less intelligent than your truly are. There is no depth to their undertsanding you.<br />
It&#8217;s not easy to say this, but language is the barrier in getting understood.<br />
Heliomare is the best place in the country for him to be, but slowing them down can be necessary. As I know from someone who also rehabilitated there. Just slam on the brakes, stop all action and don´t let them proceed till YOU feel everybody is on the same page.<br />
Good luck!<br />
XDorien</p>
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		<title>By: Brad</title>
		<link>http://www.pitlarson.com/2009/11/rob-says-he-is-clueless/#comment-251</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:44:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As i read your last I was reminded of a experience I had in rehab. Actually there were several. On the first day I couldn&#039;t pee (they had just removed the catheter that morning) They went about their day and finally by the evening I was in so much pain I was really raising hell. They came in with a ultrasound device check the contents of me bladder, only problem, they could find it. I was so full that it didn&#039;t fit in the normal location, it had slid down my leg!

A couple of days later I was passing out every time I stood. Finally I called my cardiologist in tears asking for help. He came in took me off all the meds, gave me a bolus of blood and fluids and I was fine. Except all the screwing around had cost me a week of rehab.

I came to realize that rehab people forget what you have been through and treat you like your at camp or something,  Your not there to play croquet, your are there to relearn how to live, at your own pace! Maybe you need to have some of Rob&#039;s medical people intervene and help the gym teachers (Ellie, you may have to translate what I mean) understand that he did not have a knee replacement or other quick procedure but that he needs slow strengthening, not a track and field coach. It took him 23 weeks to get there, they might need to exhibit some patience and give him some time to come round a bit.

I love you guys, Rob is there someone from your days in ICU (Ellie?) that can help to reset their agenda a bit? Call for help, anybody?
--
Love you, Brad</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As i read your last I was reminded of a experience I had in rehab. Actually there were several. On the first day I couldn&#8217;t pee (they had just removed the catheter that morning) They went about their day and finally by the evening I was in so much pain I was really raising hell. They came in with a ultrasound device check the contents of me bladder, only problem, they could find it. I was so full that it didn&#8217;t fit in the normal location, it had slid down my leg!</p>
<p>A couple of days later I was passing out every time I stood. Finally I called my cardiologist in tears asking for help. He came in took me off all the meds, gave me a bolus of blood and fluids and I was fine. Except all the screwing around had cost me a week of rehab.</p>
<p>I came to realize that rehab people forget what you have been through and treat you like your at camp or something,  Your not there to play croquet, your are there to relearn how to live, at your own pace! Maybe you need to have some of Rob&#8217;s medical people intervene and help the gym teachers (Ellie, you may have to translate what I mean) understand that he did not have a knee replacement or other quick procedure but that he needs slow strengthening, not a track and field coach. It took him 23 weeks to get there, they might need to exhibit some patience and give him some time to come round a bit.</p>
<p>I love you guys, Rob is there someone from your days in ICU (Ellie?) that can help to reset their agenda a bit? Call for help, anybody?<br />
&#8211;<br />
Love you, Brad</p>
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		<title>By: Ruth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ruth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:43:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>El - Keep on doing what feels right for BOTH of you.  It&#039;s hard going I know but considering what you&#039;ve already gone through, this may only be a bit of a &quot;bump in the road.&quot;  Hang in there!

Rob - Please don&#039;t lose heart - you have so many people pulling for you and wishing you well!  Maybe your &quot;American mom&quot; needs to come and have a few words with someone there!  

LOVE TO BOTH OF YOU (AND JANSEN TOO OF COURSE)  -I  REALLY MISS ALL OF YOU!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>El &#8211; Keep on doing what feels right for BOTH of you.  It&#8217;s hard going I know but considering what you&#8217;ve already gone through, this may only be a bit of a &#8220;bump in the road.&#8221;  Hang in there!</p>
<p>Rob &#8211; Please don&#8217;t lose heart &#8211; you have so many people pulling for you and wishing you well!  Maybe your &#8220;American mom&#8221; needs to come and have a few words with someone there!  </p>
<p>LOVE TO BOTH OF YOU (AND JANSEN TOO OF COURSE)  -I  REALLY MISS ALL OF YOU!</p>
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		<title>By: Tanja</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tanja</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:09:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Couldn&#039;t say it any better than Michele and Isabelle already did...keep faith, Rob and Elly, we love you!
Tanja &amp; kids</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Couldn&#8217;t say it any better than Michele and Isabelle already did&#8230;keep faith, Rob and Elly, we love you!<br />
Tanja &amp; kids</p>
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		<title>By: Michele and Family</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michele and Family</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 16:38:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ellyn, It seems that getting what is best for those close to us is always a struggle. But never give up. I always believe we know what is best for those close to us. You are very intelligent and can think. You will have to be persistent and even pushy and don&#039;t worry about hurting anyone&#039;s feelings. Your intuition and wisdom will guide you and life will come to your aid. It is hard, but in hindsight you will find you have done the right thing. Strength, Wisdom and Courage and our love, to you both.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ellyn, It seems that getting what is best for those close to us is always a struggle. But never give up. I always believe we know what is best for those close to us. You are very intelligent and can think. You will have to be persistent and even pushy and don&#8217;t worry about hurting anyone&#8217;s feelings. Your intuition and wisdom will guide you and life will come to your aid. It is hard, but in hindsight you will find you have done the right thing. Strength, Wisdom and Courage and our love, to you both.</p>
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		<title>By: Isabelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Isabelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 07:59:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is heartwarming to read how you are slowly picking up life again and are enjoying each other&#039;s company! It saddens me though, to read how the people who should have his best interest at heart, are not really capable of actually giving it... that&#039;s frustrating. I am sure things will be all right in the long run though: you seem to have a lot of really good friends and kind spirited people around you and that says and means a lot! You&#039;re in my heart and thoughts.

warm regards,
Isabelle</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is heartwarming to read how you are slowly picking up life again and are enjoying each other&#8217;s company! It saddens me though, to read how the people who should have his best interest at heart, are not really capable of actually giving it&#8230; that&#8217;s frustrating. I am sure things will be all right in the long run though: you seem to have a lot of really good friends and kind spirited people around you and that says and means a lot! You&#8217;re in my heart and thoughts.</p>
<p>warm regards,<br />
Isabelle</p>
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